who is buying organic?

topic posted Sun, March 22, 2009 - 11:17 PM by  skooter
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This is a real eye opener I highly recommend that you give a once over.

It's a good run down of the creation, incorporation, merger and acquisitions, and distribution of organic products and their companies. It's quite an eye opener. I'm told it came from the Arianna Huffington blog.

www.msu.edu/~howardp/org...industry.html
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  • Re: who is buying organic?

    Sun, April 12, 2009 - 10:37 PM
    Is it just more capitalization / monopolization? Or actual response to public demand? I tend to think the former unfortunately. It would be GREAT if the Big Boyz actually did something for humanity as opposed to just serving the profound purpose of the Holy Dollar.
    • Re: who is buying organic?

      Mon, April 13, 2009 - 5:01 AM
      To only mildly oversimplify - Due to the way corporate law is written and the nature of the biz-gov relationship, the SOLE responsibility of corporations is to provide quarterly (read: short term) profits for their shareholders.

      That means gov is the problem, not the solution. (Not defending corporations, mind you!)

      The up-side of this is that when we all decide we will pay for green technologies, organic foods, & similar, those will be provided en masse (with the subsequent drop in price) by those striving for said profit.

      That said, the long-term solution is to sever the ties between companies and government.
  • Re: who is buying organic?

    Wed, June 10, 2009 - 10:40 AM
    I'm buying organic, by all means. Each of us has at least 160 toxic chemicals in our bloodstreams already. Who knows what this is doing to our bodies?! You know, pesticides didn't even exist until the 1940s, so I've been told. We got along just fine without them back then. There are those who say the larger the food supply is, the larger the population is. Kind of a crude thought, but ... for what it's worth. I happen to think overpopulation is one of humanity's most dire problems.

    I figure if I buy organic fruits, nuts, seeds, and vegetables and no packaged items, I'm doing well. That solves a whole lot of problems!
    • Re: who is buying organic?

      Thu, June 11, 2009 - 6:37 AM
      Exactly.

      Buying organic is both good for the individual and good for the population in that manufacturers, wholesalers, & retailers then have a higher demand, so they spend more on organic & less on conventional, AND the price to the individual drops.

      I buy organic and will continue to do so.

      I also buy local whenever possible and grow my own food in my garden in the warmer months.
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    Re: who is buying organic?

    Tue, June 16, 2009 - 12:23 AM
    Best possible solution would be to grow your own food. I am working my hardest to get to that ideal. It's not easy,. It IS something we all should be working towards. In my opinion that is.
    • Re: who is buying organic?

      Tue, June 16, 2009 - 6:12 AM
      Not easy, but not too awfully hard. If you don;t have available land, get pots.

      We've got lettuce (3 kinds), zucchini, spinach, cabbage, carrots, tomatoes, and more...plus a strawberry patch! We started a grape vine last year that's taking off this year (though no grapes, yet).
      • Re: who is buying organic?

        Sun, July 19, 2009 - 12:47 PM
        I live in a small urban apartment without even a yard to speak of. So I'm sprouting as much as possible. It's so healthy to eat living foods and sprouts are just full of protein and life force. I love lentil sprouts, for one thing, in my salads!
        • Re: who is buying organic?

          Thu, July 23, 2009 - 5:30 AM
          Lynne - have you tried growing in pots? I have a friend who grows gobs of food in pots.
          • Re: who is buying organic?

            Sat, July 25, 2009 - 9:07 PM
            No, I haven't. I have my doubts whether anything would grow indoors. I really have no space outside for anything. I tried growing cherry tomatoes in large pots outside the front door sitting on the concrete but they dried up so often that I just could not keep up with all the watering they required. The sun is full on there and it reflected off the concrete.

            Do you know if basil would grow indoors where there is morning sun? What I'd give for some fresh basil now and then. I just can't use it all before it spoils when I buy a bunch at the store.
            • Re: who is buying organic?

              Mon, November 30, 2009 - 10:31 AM
              Lynne, join us in backyard garden survivalist tribe and get some good tips there.

              yea- i think basil should grow in your house- i grow herbs in the house right now cuz i moved.

              And a good suggestion to those who can't grow at their own home- Join a community garden OR join a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) you can buy in and get local food- or you can work trade for it most places.

              also Locally Grown (dot) net is also pretty awesome. We have a group here that has an Online farmers market- i order by Sunday- i pick up on wed. and it tells me who my growers are on each item i order etc. I'm also going to start selling through them as well.

              through these methods i'm still eating about 70-80% local diet even in December. (and i've moved from the big garden i have been working in this summer).

              Buy local!
              1 luv, trish
  • Re: who is buying organic?

    Thu, November 26, 2009 - 2:01 AM
    I read recently that there is no point in buying organic food since the production on average requires twice as much land compared industrial agriculture. We would not be able to feed the world on organic food and if we did the environmental effects would be worse.
    • Re: who is buying organic?

      Mon, November 30, 2009 - 10:41 AM
      ya and industrial ag. is SO much better... ??? WTF? McGruber??!!

      my tip-
      eat local. (basically look at the source of your food and the transport it takes to get it to you)
      stop having babies.

      and no- we probably can't feed the whole world on a local diet cuz we have too many f'n people. (but we can TRY) and the appetite of those people is just ludicrous. but we can't continue to eat pigs that swim in their own shit, or plow up and spray down miles of land for one crop- just to add a cheap sweetener to everything we eat.

      I choose not to participate in these activities- and my choice is demonstrated by NOT buying it. I don't think boycotting really works large scale no matter how much we would like it to but I can choose not to participate in that game anyway. And I, like many of you, hope that my purchase of organic items tells the businesses selling it, what I'm looking for so that they can support it more- but i'm not so stupid as to think that means that an organic label isn't used just to sell me more shit. Green washing is getting so bad that its hard to trust ANY label. BUT i still can look at the source of any item my money purchases and decide at that moment what i choose to support with it.

      i'm probley preaching the choir on most of this, i was just a little in shock of reading: "We would not be able to feed the world on organic food and if we did the environmental effects would be worse." i would LOVE to see the literature that supports this idea. and what "WORSE" could possibly be?
  • Personally I think best way to buy organic is to buy local organic. That way you get to know exactly where the food comes from, more often than not being able speak directly to the farmer. If his products are no good then his family goes without.

    Corporate organic serves one purpose and one purpose only, to provide profit for its shareholders. Sad but true.

    By buying local organic produce you are getting fresher products and supporting your local economy rather than a bunch of shareholders.

    To say organic is not viable is nonsense. Before the invention and mass production of pesticides by chemical companies everything was organic. Our lifestyles and eating habits reflected this by the way we canned vegetable, had root cellars and mostly ate "in season".

    Preservatives, pesticides and now genetic modification have give the corprorate food producers a way for them to sell more to us for longer.

    It has nothing to do with feeding the world as there are still people starving.

    On top of this there are farmers that are paid not to use their land to produce food because then there would be too much of it and the value would drop, making less profits, directly affecting the shareholders. As it is there are mountains of food that go to waste every year while people die of hunger.

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