transition tips? Fast/Slow

topic posted Wed, January 7, 2009 - 3:00 PM by  crissy
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I am reading a lot about raw and am making slow changes. I have two kids and they have been getting sick a lot this winter and so have I. I'm feeling like eating all raw but don't feel educated enough. I would love to know your favorite resources and things that made the transition easier. Also all the gadgets? do you really need a vita mix or will any good quality blender do? One more question: If I go 100% raw am I going to go into total detox mode. most people consider me to be a very healthy person with good eating habits but I feel the gluck in my system. I would like to be mentally prepared for transitional hardship. I feel like if I can stick to raw for a month it would be hard to go back. Interested to hear others stories. Also more about raw kids. Crissy
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  • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

    Thu, January 8, 2009 - 5:20 AM
    Hi, Crissy.

    In my view, the biggest issue is not what you're eating, but what you're NOT eating. That is, my experience is that it's more important to remove certain items from your diet while slowly increasing raw than it is to try to leap into total rawness.

    Rule of thumb: Don't eat it cooked if it can't be eaten raw, even if all the dieticians and health gurus say it's good for you. That leaves out things like wheat (and most other grains) and soy, for example. Among those things that can be eaten raw: if you like the taste cooked but don't like the taste raw (many people place white potatoes in this category, for example), then don't eat it.

    Are you currently vegetarian or vegan? Are your kids vegetarian or vegan?

    Gadgets: I have a food processor and a blender. I've been predominantly raw for years and rarely use the blender. I keep thinking about getting a juicer, but...

    I never experienced detox, so I have no advice there.

    Hope that helps.
    • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

      Thu, January 8, 2009 - 10:44 AM
      you have already been sick
      so you have 2 issues.. that of refortifying your system

      and that of becoming more conscious careful with being raw in eating

      as youhave been sick.. it seems like the first thing to do is to add more garlic, ashwangda and other anti-viral items

      then slowly reduce soem items from meals


      personally I dotn think eating RAW is goign to completely prevent getting sick and unless you becoem educated in getting enough protein and calcium in your diet you can do yourself a real disservie by just deciding to eat only raw uncooked fruits and vegetables
      • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

        Sat, January 10, 2009 - 11:53 PM
        thanks to you both for the advice. I have been 90% raw for 3 days and enjoying it. The biggest change Ive noticed is my taste buds.
        • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

          Tue, January 13, 2009 - 9:51 AM
          do youeat broccoli? potatoes?
          rice?
          eggs?
          cheese?

          glad you are doing well

          it's iinspiring
          • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

            Wed, January 14, 2009 - 8:18 PM
            back down to bout 50% but feeling very inspired. borrowed my brothers food processor and what a difference it has made for getting veggies into my kids and raw ones at that. I am after health and wellness but my biggest motivator is mind clarity. most accounts I have read seem to be so positive as long as awareness is used to listen to the needs of the body. for me Im happy to eat some veggies and raw patte but kids seem to need more for their rapid growth I feel pretty good even getting them on 50 raw. I think I worry more about colories than protien. With sprouted beans and seeds protien seems aplenty but I have aversions to eating so much fruit aspecially in the winter. I did get a little gittery and a little dizzy in yoga. part of the reason for eating more cooked carbs. that and stress. The gitteriness almost feels like high vibration energy trying to fit into a slower vibration body.
  • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

    Tue, January 13, 2009 - 3:13 PM
    I went raw once. I did it immediately without easing into it. It was very good for me. I lost 25 excess pounds in four months. I felt great. I thought it took 10 years off my face and my skin was really healthy looking.

    I got off course by having to spend 6 weeks in court where I couldn't really take foods with me, going to eat lunch every day with the others on my court team, and having a house guest all that time who didn't like my raw foods and started cooking and sharing with me.

    Now I mostly eat raw fruits and flax seeds (ground) for breakfast and big salads with many different veggies in them for lunch. Everyone around me at work gets sick but I don't. I babysit on Saturdays and both parents and the child got colds but I didn't. I just think even 2/3 raw helps one's immune system greatly.

    When you look at the facts, a raw diet can cure/prevent diabetes, prevent inflammation, prevent all the illnesses that come from excess weight including heart disease, etc. I started off using Gabriel Cousins Rainbow Foods book and tried to stick as much as possible to his Phase I diet. That's why it was so healing for me.

    My main complaints were 1) that I was always shivering and 2) I couldn't really eat with other people. I could not get warm even though it was summer (I live in the Bay Area where summers can be cold, though). Some have said that's a detox reaction and would have gone away eventually. And sure, you can order a salad in a restaurant but they aren't made with all the variety of ingredients I use, so they don't tide me over.

    I may get back on 100% raw if I can work up the will to do it.
    • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

      Tue, January 13, 2009 - 7:31 PM
      removing all processed foods is the first hurdle, i think.
      It causes you to completely rethink the way you feed yourself, and you will naturally refine your standards as you discover how much better you look and feel.

      dependence upon grain-based(usually processed) foods is perhaps the hardest thing to overcome--that and the sugar addiction so many of us have suffered from.

      i went 100% all at once and that suited my personality best. It gave me the opportunity to feel how much more energy i have when totally raw, and also to completely kick my addiction to the types of foods that make people think they need a certain amount of cooked food in the diet. Once you stop eating those foods for a few months, you just forget about them. They don't serve you. Pasta, potatoes, rice, pancakes, mac & cheese, they give you nothing but trouble.

      i have lost 45 lbs in just over a year and i have more energy and vitality than ever before. I hardly need to eat, even in the winter. I had a hard time when it suddenly got cold in the NW (December) so i allowed myself to back down to 50% raw for a couple of weeks until i felt better. I learned that it's important to keep checking in with yourself and not allow dogma to override the messages your body sends you. I trust my body to send me a clear, truthful message, so i follow it. I adjusted to the cold weather and by the first of January, i was bounding through the snow in a t-shirt and sweatpants, dancing all night, feeling superhuman in many ways. You go through phases--it's a journey, not so much a diet.

      SOme people have a personality that does better with transitioning slowly. If you are that type of person, i'd recommend starting with the removal of any and all processed foods including flour products, anything with sugar, and grains with the exception of whole, sprouted grains. Doing a colon cleanse is a good start, or a three day juice fast (or both). Get on www.goneraw.com for more recipes than you will have time to use. Spiritual Nutrition by Gabriel Cousens helped me to understand the concept of Living Nutrition, which is above and beyond "raw".I got the book at the library but ended up having it for 3 months so i bought my own copy to be fair to other library patron. That book is truly a living foods bible.

      i agree with Lynne in that the two hard parts are being cold and feeling separated from others. I have transcended both, but it took over a year of isolation, working through judgement and separation, and learning how to adjust my fat intake in the winter (if you are cold, eat more cashews and coconut, add cayenne and ginger to your diet daily, and keep moving)

      good luck to you. this tribe is a great resource for people just getting started. Hopefully tribe will be more stable in the near future.

      m7
    • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

      Wed, January 14, 2009 - 8:55 AM
      how do you get protein?
      eat rice uncooked?

      there are only so many avocadoes, soy nuts

      what about white cheese?
      eggs boiled?
      • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

        Wed, January 14, 2009 - 9:17 AM
        Protein is a constant question, but the flip-side of the coin is: How much protein do you think you need?

        If you're truly in need of extra protein, there are raw hemp & raw rice protein supplements if you're vegan, raw cheese & eggs if you're vegetarian, and raw meats of all kinds if you're omni. No need to eat raw steak if that's alarming (hahaha!). There's always sashimi or cold-smoked salmon or similar.

        You can heat water to under 112F and then pour in rice. It takes hours for it to soak up the water, but it is an alternative to zero grain.

        That said, my buddy Richard is fruitarian and in awesome shape. Awesome. No protein supplements of any kind. Most of us mere mortals can manage with far less protein than we've learned (care of public schools, media, & the FDA) that we need.
        • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

          Wed, January 14, 2009 - 9:40 AM
          I know that
          I am just asking

          oil also is important for a body to function welll

          for all the stories of people who are great on these diets there are also many failures and people who become irrationally thin, with acne adn hair loss who then say that it is due to a transition into healthy eating
          I am JUST asking.
          • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

            Wed, January 14, 2009 - 10:01 AM
            it's quite possible that a 100% raw diet is not healthy for every individual on a long term basis.
            Part of the journey is discovering what brings you optimum health.
            i don't think it's possible to discover that unless you're willing to let go of everything you're emotionally (or stubbornly, scientifically) attached to first, and then reintroduce nutritious foods to test them out.

            i don't understand what the "white cheese, boiled eggs" bit was about.
            we don't need that crap at all.

            If i ever feel that i need more protein than i'm getting from my daily intake of hemp seed, pumpkin seed, almond butter, then i have some raw fish. This happens maybe once or twice a month. The need for protein is a story you tell yourself, influenced by the media and the medical industry, and the livestock industries. YOu can tell yourself a new story, one that goes something like this:

            I am strong, healthy and vibrant on living foods. I am grateful for the abundance that the earth provides, and i only take what i need to support my body and mind. It is my duty to maintain my physical being at an optimum level of functionality so that i am of service to humanity and our beautiful planet. I trust that i will be guided to the foods that give me life and strength, and my lower urges for useless substances will gradually fade away.

            btw, to the original poster, if you live in or near Vancouver, go to the Gorilla Food cafe. Those guys are really tapped in to why we live this way.
          • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

            Thu, January 15, 2009 - 5:32 AM
            No offense intended, Carmeluna. My apologies.

            True, there are many who embrace a raw diet and then get ill. I tend to think that comes from focusing only on the raw content of their diet, however, and not adjusting the entire lifestyle to include, for example, more exercise (or more productive exercise) and things of that nature, or even a healthy balance of foods....which is one reason I mentioned Richard.

            But then that's just my view. I could be wrong.

            It would be interesting to see a long-term study of raw with a comprehensive breakdown of the differences between those who thrive and those who don't on predominantly raw diets.
            • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

              Thu, January 15, 2009 - 2:17 PM
              "But then that's just my view. I could be wrong. "

              no, i don't think you're wrong about this...though i suppose i could be wrong about thinking you're right.
              there is so much more than just not cooking your food. One does not find out all the benefits until they go 100% raw for more than a few months. I would highly recommend that to anyone in this tribe who is not living a peaceful, balanced life--it really does help.
              • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

                Fri, January 16, 2009 - 9:46 AM
                Ive heard that before that you dont get the real benefits till you go 100% ???? how come? also is an ezekiel wrap raw? In brief what are the real benefits? Please inspire me!
                • Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

                  Fri, January 16, 2009 - 4:28 PM
                  Medically speaking, most of the measurable benefits happen at 80% (counted by calorie, not volume). I'll see if I can dig up the info that supports said claim.

                  That said, I have noticed a subjective difference at excess of 90%, as well as at 100%.

                  Try it out and see what you think, but make it an attainable goal - like 30 days raw, or 10 days raw (100%).

                  No, Ezekiel products are not raw, though they are FAR better than any other bread that I personally know of.
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                    Re: transition tips? Fast/Slow

                    Sat, January 17, 2009 - 6:05 PM
                    i only know what it's like to go 100% raw, so i don't have any experience to relay about transitioning.
                    What i can tell you is that once i felt the vitality in my body, the clarity in my mind and the peace in my soul, i just couldn't turn back. Only when i'm in a self-destructive mood (as in PMS) do i revert to my old habits of emotional eating. I feel that if you don't give yourself a chance to fully feel the difference, it's easy to rationalize eating food or drink that doesn't really serve you.

                    My metabolism increased significantly after 6 months of 100% raw, to the point where if i spend a day or two exerting more energy than normal (such as being out dancing for hours, having a lot of sex, or hiking) i drop a few pounds. It used to be really hard for me to lose any weight no matter what i did. I know that my body is utilizing all the calories i put into it, and those calories are clean-burning fuel.

                    I think that Victoria Boutenko is onto something with her suggestion that eating lots of greens alleviates food cravings. Try starting your day with a large green smoothie (people have posted lots of recipes here and in the Raw Vegans tribe, plus there is a green smoothie tribe too) and see how you feel after a few weeks. When i first went raw, i thought i had to have soaked grains with fruit to feel satisfied for breakfast, but after only a week, i felt great with just the smoothie. Now i drink one in the morning and bottle up 1-2 more for later, and that lasts me through most of the afternoon. I snack on fruit or nuts in between and if i'm hungrier than that, i have a salad for dinner. Also try to let your body fast for at least 12 hours overnight.

                    There are a few other support network websites besides www.goneraw.com (which is primarily a recipe site). www.giveittomeraw is one, and then there is www.eatrawfood.com . People are really awesome, kind and helpful on those sites. In fact, i should spend more time over there instead of here where i often encounter meanies.

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